Mansfield Park Chapters 17-24: Summation, Musings & Discussion: Day 7 Give-away!

The Novel

Her heart (Fanny) and her judgment were equally against Edmund’s decision: she could not acquit his unsteadiness, and his happiness under it made her wretched. The Narrator, Chapter 17 

Quick Synopsis 

Edmund reverses his opposition to act based on concerns for Mary Crawford. Fanny is shocked, Maria and Tom gloat. Henry’s flirtations with Maria become obvious to the others, and divides the two sisters. The actors squabble during rehearsals. Sir Thomas returns home from Antigua unannounced. The play is off and everyone’s spirits are low. The house is cleared of all evidence of the play including Mr. Yates. Henry leaves for Bath without declaring himself to Maria. She is miffed, but Julia gloats over her misery, relieved that he is gone. Since Henry did not propose and she must get away from her father’s tyranny, Maria marries Mr. Rushworth. Julia goes on honeymoon to Brighton with the newlyweds. In Maria and Julia’s absence, the focus shifts to Fanny for amusements for the Crawford’s. Mrs. Grants honors Fanny with an invitation to dine, much to Lady Bertram’s puzzlement. At dinner, Henry laments the loss of the play and Fanny condemns his “corrupted mind” intriguing Henry to look at Fanny in a whole new light. Mary laments Edmund’s pending ordination. Fanny’s brother William arrives at Mansfield. 


As the plot develops, I am amazed at how layered it is becoming. The chapters of the theatrical being produced are almost like a mini-novella within the text. I understand that the play Lovers’ Vows which I have not read yet, adds greatly to the interpretation of the scenes as it mirrors much of the action. The romantic entanglements unfolding with the love triangle of Henry Crawford flirting with the two Bertram sisters is the main focus of these chapters, resulting in tension and suspense. Is this just entertainment for him or is he a serious suitor? Who does he prefer? Will Maria risk her reputation and dump the rich lout Mr. Rushworth for him? I am amused as both Mr. Rushworth and Henry Crawford take turns at discrediting each other behind their backs to the other members; Rushworth repeating his amazement at anyone liking such a short fellow, and Crawford deriding Rushworth’s ability to learn his four-and-twenty speeches! Too funny! Fanny, who is developing into the sage voice of reason and virtue, is appalled by it all. Jane Austen drops an insult by way of a complement to Henry Crawford with this telling clue as observed by Fanny. 

Mr. Crawford was considerably the best actor of all: he had more confidence than Edmund, more judgment than Tom, more talent and taste than Mr. Yates. She did not like him as a man, but she must admit him to be the best actor, and on this point there were not many who differed from her. The Narrator, Chapter 18 

When Sir Thomas’s early return from Antigua halts the play, it is interesting to see how all of the parties react; Edmund is horrified, Tom is annoyed, Maria and Julia miffed over the loss of Henry’s attentions, Mary non-pulsed, Henry bored again, and Fanny relieved that the perfect timing totally saved her from acting. Their naughty antics without proper parental supervision have ceased, and his children must face the music! Their lives are mundane and dull again at Mansfield under the tyranny of Sir Thomas. The over-all reaction is for those who can to scatter and flee; Mr. Yates departs, Henry leaves for Bath, Maria marries, and Julia goes with her to Brighton. Even though Jane Austen does not show us dialogue of Sir Thomas admonishing his children for their bad behavior, she cleverly shows us the gravity of a situation by other means through a characters reaction. 

He (Mr. Yates) had known many disagreeable fathers before, and often been struck with the inconveniences they occasioned, but never, in the whole course of his life, had he seen one of that class so unintelligibly moral, so infamously tyrannical as Sir Thomas. He was not a man to be endured but for his children’s sake, The Narrator, Chapter 20 

Now that Maria and Julia are gone, the spotlight turns to the only other young woman left at Mansfield, Fanny Price! This causes quite a bit of amazement from all quarters since Fanny, always in her cousin’s shadows has never been considered anything other than a glorified servant in the Mansfield household. So when Mary Crawford looks about for new amusements and sets her sights on poor innocent Fanny, the hairs on the back of neck go up. Mrs. Grant, concerned that Mary accustomed to the social pace of London is bored, encourages the friendship. When Fanny is invited to dine with the Grant’s at the parsonage, Lady Bertram is amazed that anyone would want Fanny as a guest. Lady Bertram’s reaction really clarifies the lowly position in the household that Fanny holds in her estimation. 

She (Fanny) had neither sympathy nor assistance from those who ought to have entered into her feelings and directed her taste; for Lady Bertram never thought of being useful to anybody, and Mrs. Norris, when she came on the morrow, in consequence of an early call and invitation from Sir Thomas, was in a very ill humour, and seemed intent only on lessening her niece’s pleasure, both present and future, as much as possible. The Narrator, Chapter 23 

Mrs. Norris’ reaction, as usual, is even stronger as she lectures her on staying within her sphere and that she must be the “lowest and the last” at the dinner! This is abominable behavior to a relative or anyone for that matter even in Regency times, but Fanny has no choice and must absorb it all. I am inclined to believe that it did have some effect on her spirits though, since while talking with Henry Crawford at dinner she speaks very boldly and out of character disagreeing with his views and condemning his “corrupted mind“!  Wow! That is the first time we have ever see Fanny speak out so strongly and I applauded her convictions. Henry is stirred by her spirit also, and decides that she is much improved in appearance and deposition and will be his next amusing romantic dalliance. 

“But I cannot be satisfied without Fanny Price, without making a small hole in Fanny Price’s heart.” Henry Crawford, Chapter 24 

Oh my! Jane Austen has added a new layer of romantic mischief to the plot. We shall see where it takes us and poor Fanny, who seems to be the Crawford’s new play-thing! With Fanny’s brother William’s arrival at Mansfield, we see how energetically Fanny reacts to family and people who truly love her. Henry is now even more determined to “be also loved by such a girl“, and extends his stay indefinitely. 

Further reading 

Online text complements of Molland’s Circulating Library
Cast of characters
Chapter 17-24 summary
Chapter 17-24 quotes and quips 

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13 thoughts on “Mansfield Park Chapters 17-24: Summation, Musings & Discussion: Day 7 Give-away!

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  1. I don’t think that Lady Bertram thinks of Fanny as being in a very lowly position. Mostly because I don’t think that Lady Bertram thinks at all. As Jane Austen wrote in one of the quote you posted today “Lady Bertram never thought of being useful to anybody”. As I see it the only person really holding Fanny in a low position is Mrs. Norris (probably because that’s the position she would have had else). Unfortunately for Fanny Mrs. Norris is very manipulative.

    Reading Lovers’ Vows is very interesting. The play is in my opinion rather bad, but I was very shocked by some of the scenes, much like Fanny.

    One thing that I’ve been thinking reading this part is that I don’t really understand why Mary Crawford doesn’t see that Fanny is in love with Edmund, she seems very intelligent, but maybe she’s just seeing what she wants?

    And this time around I find that I kind of like Tom despite the fact that he’s very selfish. The scene where Sir Thomas meets Yates for the first time is great, but what’s really great is Toms observations. He seems to have a great sense of humour.


  2. I’ve fallen behind in my reading and haven’t reached these chapters yet. I couldn’t resist reading your summary and the thoughts posted here. It’s all very intriguing and the characters have really developed over the course of the novel. When I read that Fanny spoke her mind I was happy for he, but when I read about how her aunt put her down I felt quite sorry for her. I’m anxious to see how William’s arrival will affect things.


  3. I would say that the arrival of Sir Thomas and the departure of so many characters is what allows the reader to see the real Fanny for the first time.
    Of course, Fanny is thrown into discomfort over the attention from those who originally disliked and forgot her. (I don’t blame her for being suspicious and frightened by their attentions – why wouldn’t someone feel confused, afraid, and distrusting of sudden attention from people who would normally ignore and mistreat them).

    Maybe I’m getting a little ahead of the discussion in saying this, but as far as Henry’s thoughts of romance towards Fanny, I don’t think she notices what his true attempts are (at least now). I would say that Fanny sees Henry’s attempts the same way as the attentions of others (if not as pure annoyances).


  4. May I suggest Edward Said’s “Culture and Empire” (non-fiction) which has an intersting perspective on Mansfield Park as a reference along with Joseph Conrad’s “Heart of Darkness.” A bit heavy going sometimes but perservereance will reward.


  5. I have been trying to find the time to respond for days now! My friend told me about this place because she knows how I read my Jane Austen books over and over again. I haven’t seen any of the movie versions of the book, but just recently began watching the S&S and P&P movies. I have always loved having the characters play out in my imagaination as I read the books, but found it fun to fill in the blanks when I watched the most recent P&P. I will have to buy the MP version soon.

    In regards to Fanny and the new interest from others, I find it so awful, once again, to read about how cold Mrs. Norris is to her. I believe that Mrs. Norris is so insecure and feels better about herself by belittling Fanny. What I have always loved about this part of the book is to see Fanny begin to come alive. I love her wit!

    I am getting excited for Fanny that her brother, William, will be there because of the hope she can be herself.

    Reading everyone’s comments this past week has been wonderful. I am glad I had a chance to comment too.



  6. Oh, Jane (Layton)! If you haven’t seen the ’99 Mansfield Park movie, you are in for a treat. I never miss it on Masterpiece Theater and rely on my ever faithful DVR to catch it for me. Be sure to have a full box of tissue handy because you will need it. It’s one of the better Jane Austen movies.


  7. The focus on Fanny is new, you’re right – I can’t help comparing it to what happens to Anne Elliot : in both cases, the villain (Henry Crawford or William Elliot) is not interested in “the other sister” (Elizabeth or Julia) but in the much more intelligent and sensible one (Fanny and Anne). Somehow, they do recognize some characteristics in Anne and Fanny. Perhaps it’s just the chase (Julia or Elizabeth would fall into their arms right away) but as some have argued, I believe at some point Henry and William do fall for the heroines.
    I’d be great to read Lovers’ Vows after that, indeed.


  8. Jane, as habing not seen MP movie version, I would like to suggest you to try and get the 1983 BBC miniseries. It is more true to the plot than the 1999 and ITV’s 2007 movie.
    I have not read ‘Lover’s Vows’ and agree with Sibylle that it’ll be great as it can give a better understand of the play in context to MP.


  9. Although I love this part of the book, there are many characters I am very _ _ _ _ _ _ off at:
    Mr. Crawford and Mary Crawford, Mrs. Norris, as usual, Mrs. Bertram, as usual…I’m also _ _ _ _ _ _ off at Edmund for switching his opinion on whether to act or not. He always was the sane and good-thinking one in the family…*sigh*
    Then again maybe this is Jane Austen’s purpose?
    Good interpretation!


  10. Hello Mansfield Park Madness participants day 7

    I will give a collective congratualtions to you all for your excellent comments and insights.

    Kiragade – “Lady Bertram never thought of being useful to anybody”. Great observtion. It amazes me that anyone could not be useful to their own children – but I guess that was what her servants and Fanny are for right?

    Jane Layton – welcome and I hope you find some things on Austen of interest here since you are a fan. Please thank your friend for referring you!

    The 1999 movie of MP is interesting, to say the least. We will be discussing it later, so save your thoughts.

    Cheers to all, Laurel Ann


  11. No not the servant or Fanny. Mrs. Norris and Sir Thomas is to be useful to the children, since they take care of everything else as well. Fanny is useful to her, and I don’t think that servants would enter into her head as being usefull for anyone, they are just there, naturally:)


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